Yamaha Clp 685 Vs Nu1x

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I have already done reviews on the lower priced CLP-625, CLP-635, CLP-645, and CLP-665GP so this review concentrates on the higher priced CLP-675, CLP-685, and CLP-695GP mini digital grand piano. These 3 pianos are the top-of-the-line CLP models for Yamaha and have features in them that the lower priced models do not have.

NU1X joins the growing family of instruments bearing the moniker of AvantGrand, the company’s flagship line of hybrid pianos that combine the tuning stability and maintenance-free operation of a digital piano with the musicality and realism of an acoustic grand.

BUENA PARK, Calif.(SEPTEMBER 01, 2017) — Yamaha today announced the AvantGrand NU1X, the successor to its highly successful NU1 upright hybrid piano. Major upgrades over the NU1, which Keyboard magazine described in June 2013 as “the new gold standard in a self-contained but compact acoustic piano replacement,” elevate the playing experience to a level of quality unprecedented in an instrument of this form factor.

Like the NU1 before it, the NU1X is built upon the legacy of the U1, the most widely used acoustic upright piano in the world (In fact, Yamaha has built more U1 units than most other piano manufacturers have built across their entire product lines). The NU1X joins the growing family of instruments bearing the moniker of AvantGrand, the company’s flagship line of hybrid pianos that combine the tuning stability and maintenance-free operation of a digital piano with the musicality and realism of an acoustic grand.

First among the refinements in the new NU1X is the sound. The NU1X improves upon the NU1’s multi-samples of the critically acclaimed Yamaha CFX concert grand even further, while adding a companion world-class piano, the mighty Bösendorfer Imperial. These are reproduced via a pair of 16cm woofers and 1.9cm tweeters (all front-facing), with the inside of the NU1X being a unified enclosure with specially designed acoustic chambering to enhance natural reverberation as on an acoustic piano, not to mention providing bass response that does justice to the presence and thunder of the nine-foot source pianos. This is further enhanced by “tone escape” ports on the rear, which give a sense of the sound reflecting from whatever wall the instrument is likely to be placed against. Thanks to the company’s prominent expertise in acoustic sampling, the core sounds and onboard speaker system were not merely “bolted on” to one another, but engineered from the ground up as an organic whole. The purpose: To give an utterly convincing sense of the plethora of tones of which a piano can blend naturally in the air, as they do on the genuine acoustic article.

Great sound demands great feel, and the NU1X delivers with a real acoustic upright hammer action that is far more grand-like in its response than that of the NU1, or indeed, of any digital piano on the market today. Dynamic sensitivity in response to softly played passages is improved, as is smoothness of key return for fast or repeating runs and trills. Via the NU1X’s continuous grayscale sensor technology, careful study of the interaction between the optical key sensors and the physical action has allowed Yamaha to eliminate the “flat spots” in the total dynamic range that are often a shortcoming of upright pianos. Beyond this, there is more “information” and therefore more resolution in the sound, especially when playing at very low velocities.

Virtual Resonance Modeling (VRM) ups the realism ante still more. In an acoustic piano, strings that are not directly struck by the hammers vibrate in sympathy with those that are — an effect which can be more pronounced if dampers are disengaged from the strings due to previously held keys or, most noticeably, if the damper pedal is pressed. This adds additional overtones (harmonics) to the player’s intended notes, with further coloration imparted by the natural resonances of the wooden soundboard. Yamaha VRM painstakingly models these acoustic properties, capturing a visceral and psychoacoustic aspect of the grand piano experience that, while subtle, is quite conspicuous in its absence to discerning pianists.

Other key features of the new NU1X include:

Binaural CFX grand piano sound variant, optimized for playing through headphones.
Wireless Bluetooth audio input for playing along with streamed songs from a smartphone, tablet, or computer.
Additional voices in common with the Clavinova CLP-685.
MIDI and audio recording
Built-in metronome.

The NU1X is intended for families, students, educators, and urban dwellers who wish to fit a no-compromise piano experience into a limited space at a surprisingly affordable price. With the NU1X taking its place alongside its larger N3X, N2, and N1 siblings, virtually anyone who longs for that experience can now afford the playability and prestige of a genuine AvantGrand.

Pricing and Availability

The AvantGrand NU1X will be available at authorized Yamaha piano retailers starting in October 2017, with an MSRP of $6,999.00.

For further information, visit http://4wrd.it/AVANTGRAND

Hello everyone.I have been thinking about buying a digital piano for over a year now. Half a year ago, I tried the top of the line digitals of the major brands, including Kawai CS 11, Roland LX-17, Yamaha CLP-585 and Casio GP-500. I also tried the Yamaha N-1 with a real grand keyboard and couldn't settle with any of the other digital pianos since then. However, the N-1 exceeds the budget I am willing to spend right now. Besides the N1, my favourite was the Yamaha CLP-585, but I couldn't quite fall in love with the keys. Cyberlink youcam 6 please start youcam.

So for the past 6 months, I have been waiting for the successor, the Yamaha Clavinova CLP-685.Today, I got a chance to play the CLP-685 for a bit and wanted to share my first impressions. I would also appreciate comments, impressions and reviews from all who already got a chance to play the new CLP-685.I must say, I was impressed, or to put it in more appropriate words.

There was nothing that particularly bothered or annoyed me.as was the case with all aforementioned digital pianos. As I wrote in another post, with all of the other digital pianos, there was something that ruined it for me.

Casio - didn't like the keys which are too light for my taste; Kawai CS 11 - the bass is too booming and overall sound a bit 'muddy'; Roland - keys felt a bit plastic-y and although I liked the modeled sound at first, I kind of got over it when playing it again; Yamaha 585 - loved the sound, keys didn't match my preference, in particular when compared to the N1, which in the end I was considering to buy despite the price difference; N1 - expensive. I don't want to imply that any of these pianos are bad, they are all excellent digital pianos, but with each one of them there was something that was not to my very personal liking. I find the CLP-685 so good that I am not considering the N1 anymore. Of course the keys of the N1 are better, but the CLP-685 is also really really good and for my needs the difference is too small to justify the higher price of the N1 (and the N1 lacks all the bells and whistles which I would like to have as well. And yes, I know, there are reasons why the N1 doesn't have the bells and whistles.

Targets different customer base etc. I know I know; still, it's 2017, I want all digital functionality/connectivity available).With the CLP-685 the overall experience was simply enjoyable and nice. Sure, it didn't feel quite the same as a real grand or the Yamaha N1, but it was pleasant and felt natural. The keys were responsive and for the first time, I did not feel like I was playing on 'plastic' keys or fake mechanics (I know some of the models mentioned above have wooden keys, the feel is still off when compared to a real grand piano, due to mechanics - IMHO).

The keyboard of the CLP-685 is the best in all digitals I tried (except for those with a real piano keyboard such as the N1). I also compared the keyboard of the 685 against the 675 and I find the difference to be huge. After playing on the 685 for approximately 20 minutes, the mechanics of the keys on the 675 didn't feel right. When compared to the 685 they felt (for lack of a better word) like plastic. The counterweights in the 685 make - in my opinion - a huge difference (just as they did in the 585 when compared to the 575).The other aspects were also pleasant, as said before, there was nothing that really bothered or annoyed me.

I find the sound good both over speakers and headphones. The binaural samples over headphones are pleasant (didn't actually try the normal ones with headphones). Speakers make a nice voluminous sound.

The keys are superb in my opinion. Everything just felt natural. By the way, I also tried to play some popular music over bluetooth.

And it sounded great.With the CLP-685, everything felt balanced and I enjoyed the overall experience a lot. Not a real piano, not a real grand piano, but very very close with nothing annoying to ruin the joy of playing and listening to it. All of this is of course based on my personal taste and preference. I am pretty sure I'm gonna buy it soon. In Vienna, the polished ebony version should be shipping by the end of July.I would love to hear about your hands-on impressions of the CLP-685.Piano & Music Gifts & Accessories (570)Re: Yamaha CLP-685 - First Impressions06/01/17 11:02 AM 06/01/17 11:02 AMJoined: May 2017Posts: 5. I tried the CLP600's and they sounded nicer than the previous series imo.

Bosendorfer not good. I guess I'm after a particular sound, so if I don't get it I move on. There's got to be loads of improvement on all these models with on board menus and that, so first impressions can be misleading in the extreme.Pleasantly surprised by the cheaper end, though, and the cabinets looked well and solid.

To be honest, I never even noticed the keyboard, though that was one of the reasons for wanting to try 'em. In essence, I can only shrug and be thankful that in my case, it probably makes no difference anyway.They had an acoustic Kawai grand which I also tried. No problem playing it, but there's no graphic equaliser or individual key volume control. Obviously a manufacturing oversight which will be dealt with on later models.So I didn't buy. Bottom line: I think I will purchase the CS11, as it is the overall better grand piano key action simulation IMHO, if you are ok with the Shigeru Kawai sound, which lacks a bit of personality, but nevertheless delivers a solid grand piano performance over the entire 88 keys.I went with the CS11 after lots of testing. To me it is a good deal better than its competitors.

The new SK-EX sound is a vast improvement over the older EX sound. On first hearing you could think the SK-EX is a tad bland but it has hidden depths. I like it very much. Maybe I'm lucky with my placement but the sound system on the CS11 for my purposes is nigh-on perfect. Rich and powerful but not overblown.

For me, both in the shop and now in my sitting room, it's a good deal closer to the experience of playing a real acoustic than the others I tested. Touch/feel:Roland LX-17: feels and plays like a digital piano, nowhere near clp-685 and/or cs11 (no counterweight could be felt, no escapement action, mediocre key quality (full plastic), did not respond well at all to fast, repetitive notes like played in Grande Valse Brillante or Moszkowski etudes).I just want to say that you are wrong here about Roland. It is actually hybrid keyboard containing both plastic and wood elements. Also there is escapement 'simulation' like on most higher tier digital pianos.Re: Yamaha CLP-685 - First Impressions06/25/17 11:41 AM 06/25/17 11:41 AMJoined: Aug 2016Posts: 3,060. I just want to say that you are wrong here about Roland. It is actually hybrid keyboard containing both plastic and wood elements. Also there is escapement 'simulation' like on most higher tier digital pianos.There's a bit of controversy about what a hybrid DP or action actually is.

The 'rigorous' view is that the term should be reserved for actual acoustic piano actions driving digital tone generators. Kawai sometimes takes the view that their long-keystick full-wooden key actions are 'hybrid' as well, though I think this is too much of a stretch, personally.I really don't think cosmetic wooden slats covering a composite action like the PHA-50 should be considered hybrid in any sense of the word, but I guess, what's in a name.

You're right that the PHA-50 incorporates wooden elements in its keys though. Avg disk defrag hardisk ps2. Like I said, I don't think there is a consensus. But allowing the GF2 is imo scraping the bottom of the barrel of the definition And once we're arguing where the line is for some arbitrary set of attributes (key length + existence of counterweights), then how do you justify cutting it before cosmetic wooden treatment? Or even beyond that?

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The PHA-IV Concert's.wood-colored. plastic side panels might as well be a hybrid too, since the key side color is almost exactly like that in a real grand, even if a whole bunch of other stuff isn't.I don't know where the line is/should be, but I feel a good dividing line is a real acoustic action (AvantGrand, NU1, Novus, maybe that Alpha, and of course the silent acoustics) that drives either a digital or acoustic+digital sound. There are cars that run on gasoline.There are some that run on batteries.There are some that run on both. Those are hybrids.There are pianos that make sound with strings.There are others that produce sound electronically.There are some that do both.

Those are hybrids.Yamaha's definition might differ. But remember, their English may not be so good.And the source you cite centers on online promotion. A locale fraught with marketing-speak. Can we really trust and rely upon such?Re: Yamaha CLP-685 - First Impressions06/26/17 04:14 AM 06/26/17 04:14 AMJoined: Dec 2009Posts: 3,720. I certainly agree with Mac about cars and understand his reasoning when applied to pianos.But the first digital 'hybrid' pianos were Yamaha GranTouch pianos in about 1997.

I feel that established a basic definition of 'hybrid' in relation to pianos.Real action + digital sound generation = hybrid.The Kawais such as mine like CS11 do not qualify because the action is not a real acoustic piano action. Some might say the presence of a soundboard qualifies it for classification as a hybrid but personally I disagree.

The new Kawai Novus will be a hybrid as it has a real action.I think this is a case of Yamaha having been able to, and frankly being entitled to, define the term due to them being first to market and having an unbroken series of such products using the same definition. There are cars that run on gasoline.There are some that run on batteries.There are some that run on both. Those are hybrids.I don't want to be unnecessarily argumentative (though I guess this IS the internet), but this is a case where sufficiency doesn't equate to necessity. Some hybrids may be able to switch off seamlessly between electric and gas, but others cannot-take the battery out of a Chevy Volt and it won't move at all since the drivetrain is exclusively electric (the gas engine only charges the battery).

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Even on non-PI hybrids like a traditional Prius, the electric drivetrain depends on the gas engine, and you can't go powered for more than a few seconds without the latter.Even classical hybrids are merely defined as an offspring of different parent species or (in your own words) a combination of two or more things. Whether the offspring retains any function of either parent is irrelevant to the definition. But the first digital 'hybrid' pianos were Yamaha GranTouch pianos in about 1997. I feel that established a basic definition of 'hybrid' in relation to pianos.Real action + digital sound generation = hybrid.The Kawais such as mine like CS11 do not qualify because the action is not a real acoustic piano action. Some might say the presence of a soundboard qualifies it for classification as a hybrid but personally I disagree. The new Kawai Novus will be a hybrid as it has a real action.I think this is a case of Yamaha having been able to, and frankly being entitled to, define the term due to them being first to market and having an unbroken series of such products using the same definition.I more or less agree with this. It's historically and internally consistent, and includes the AvantGrand/NU1/Novus class of products, as well as the 'silent piano' class that arguably takes it a step further.

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And it does a fair job avoiding dilution through things like key material, soundboards, finish, etc.

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